I put these shoes on when they showed up and my girlfriend loved them with the
jeans that I had on at the time. However, I bought them for the office of course, and they look great with slacks. That said, I usually wear size 11.5, and these in 11.5, color black, felt a little cramped in the toe area. I went back to Zappos to buy size 12, and alas, they were out of stock. Another reviewer mentioned stiff leather, but mine are comfortable, not too stiff. Even if they were stiff, there is an old shoe salesperson trick of working the edge of the leather to soften it up if necessary, rather than discount an otherwise nice pair of shoes.