In case this matters to anyone, this attractive shoe is built up a little inside the heel, so it's not as flat as it looks. My foot isn't the perfect shape for these shoes, but I like them and need the dark brown, so I'll probably keep them. Also, most of the other
loafers I've tried gape too much when I walk, and these don't. I did go up a half size, as my normal size was too tight with even thin
socks.