I got them in black. But I'm slightly tempted to send them back, so I'm only 80% recommending them. They can be seen just below the knee when I have them on underneath my favorite
jeans. I tried them with every pair of
jeans in my closet and a few of them you can't see the boot, but the abrupt line underneath my favorite pair of
jeans is troublesome. I know I can wear them with
dress pants and
skirts. I tried tucking my
jeans into them and they look alright that way. Otherwise they are: Very Comfortable (but I was hoping for more cushion underneath my heel). Toe box is wide enough to wear with Smart Wool
socks. Fit to the calf is great. They have just the right amount of stretch. Also, they are lined (so you don't have the leather feeling on the inside against your calf). Very sleek looking. Fantastic craftsmanship. My thought is the hardware on the top of the boot and height of the boot causes them to show. I might need to get a boot that has a shorter shaft if I want to wear them under
jeans. Also, with
Ecco heels, I always go a size down. I wasn't sure how it would be with
boots because of the addition of
socks. I still prefer the size down. I'm a 39 and ordered both the 38 and 39. I prefer the 38.